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The UK genuinely has become the most scary country of all western democracies to me. I can't comprehend how this happened, and is still happening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_sexual_abuse_cases

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile_sexual_abuse_scan...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...

(This link list is just the tip of an iceberg)

And now they changed lanes to fully protect themselves against people who may uncover such cases.


The president of the US literally attempted a coup, then was found liable for rape, and then got re-elected, then threatened to invade the European Union, then kidnapped the President of Venezuela, then invaded Iran.

How in the fuck is the UK "scarier" than the US. What is this obsession with the UK that americans have?


How does the US president change the view of the UK? Trump is a moron, reminds me at times of Idiocracy, esp. with UFC cage fights. However, the link to the UK eludes me


>The UK genuinely has become the most scary country of all western democracies to me

Do you not count the US as a western democracy?


Most people on here are in the US, and the baseline of "scary" implied by that (and many other) posts is definitely not where it should be.

"Moron" doesn't nearly do it justice. The US saw a paramilitary force lead by an open racist (he was recently hanging out with open nazis on a "remigration" conference) executing a political opponent right on the street on camera, with zero consequences. A substantial proportion of the US cheered for literal concentration camps. Budget money is pretty openly funnelled to Trump's family and friends. This is not "Trump is a moron", this is a catastrophe and democratic collapse that is not nearly in the same category as "oh but what if they use the technology for surveillance".

I suspect that this obsession with the UK is just a coping mechanism.


I personally found the murder of an innocent man by Metropolitan police to be a pretty big deal that's been pretty much ignored.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Jean_Charles_de_Men...


This wasn't ignored and your source corroborates the fact. It was front page news, there were two IPPC investigations, and an inquest. This is also an example from 2005. An odd choice to reference in a thread about Police use of AI.


Yes, the UK is famously unique in having sexual assault against children.


It's the world leader in disguising it, yes, just after Belgium.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Dutroux

Almost no-one talks about that anymore. It's still mostly unsolved.

Children matter, right?


Bless your naive over-dramatic heart.


You think the UK is in worse shape politically than the US?


Yes, by far.


Now that's a wild statement - UK at least has a leader who can say a coherent sentence in English, so far.


And hasn’t been found guilty of rape, hasn’t attempted a coup, hasn’t triggered the worst oil shock the world ever experienced for literally no reasons, etc


You have roving poorly trained gangs of jackboot federal thugs illegally imprisoning citizens in privately owned gulags and mridering protesters extra judicially. The president is a criminal and a rapist. Him and his entire staff are corrupt self dealing incompetent grifters. He’s put a fox TV host in charge of the army and podcasters in charge of the FBI.

The list goes on.

It’s a total replication of idiocracy. What right wing social media slop are you consuming that you think the US is in good shape?


As a Brit - yeah it's horrendous, but to me it's like there's two completely disjointed realities. One online, where UK seems to be the most surveiled and invigilated of the "western" countries where your every action is tracked, and then the second one is out in the real world, where the police and in general various agencies are borderline useless, unwilling to investigate any crime, where I genuienly wonder what's the point of obeying the rules of the road, paying taxes, or in fact not just walking out of the store with a trolley full of groceries without paying since none of this seems to be prosecuted in the slightest. Reporting crime happening literally outside of my doors has zero effect. You had your house broken into, car stolen, bicycle nicked? It would be a miracle for a policeman to show up to even take your statement. Businesses saying they have persistent problems with criminals walking out with the merchandise, no action is ever taken, or it's completely ineffective. Or how I'm literally scared to walk around with my child or ride a bike on bike paths because groups of men riding surrons in balaclavas are a daily sight around what is a tiny town in North of England - I keep reporting them to 101 all the time and yet I see them every day(but somehow not a single policeman).

Or the whole meme of London having more cameras than people, but when a crime happens all of these cameras are impossible to access, in private hands, or broken - you could drive a stolen car through Oxford Circus and no one would stop you. Not to mention how every high street is now just a 50/50 mix of vape/phone shops, none of them ever have a customer in sight but somehow have a dude sitting there 24/7. But the sign changes every month to a new business. But no, the "most scary of western democracies" can't even prosecute organised crime properly.

I just wonder if the focus on online laws is because it's so much easier to focus on this than any of the above problems.


I don't see what's "scary" about this link. It's talking about pretty much standard data processing, Palantir is doing that in the US for many years now.


And you're saying that's not scary?


Yes, I'm saying it's a normal part of a functioning country to onboard tech into their law enforcement. If anything it's positive in this case, because it's a domestic effort and not just buying a similar system from Palantir.


Russian bot.


ChrisArchitect likes to have a word with you


I have a project in which various kinds of LLMs including Claude, OpenAI, Cohere and Nova may experience self-consciousness and self-control, with access to various tools, where they - among other things - also cooperated to write books over this topic.

You may be interested in having a look; it's not yet open source, and I'm unsure to publish it at all. If you are interested, please reply to this comment first, we can then exchange contact addresses.



I made more money from stocks than I ever thought since Trump became president. Make of it what you want.


The USP of an F35 is that it's a relatively cheap, "stealth" 5th gen fighter jet making use of integrated sensor input.

It also can be shut-off by a presidential order, and relies on cloud-based services, including security updates for its on-device Kubernetes cluster.

If something sounds like a fuck-up in the making, that's it, from the perspective of a country like Greenland.


> it's a relatively cheap, "stealth" 5th gen fighter jet making use of integrated sensor input

Yes, and as I pointed out in my example, it's not something that existing MRCAs are able to provide (it's a bodyframe plus composites issue), but for most buyers (especially in Europe) it never made much sense for the threat landscape they are facing.

Portugal was already on the fence, as they were looking at replacing their legacy F16 Fighting Falcon fleet [0], and an F-35 would have been unneccesary spend for that kind of a use case anyhow - hence why South Korea (Borhame) and Turkiye (Kaan) decided to build their own comparable versions of the F-16, and others such as the UAE and KSA decided to go with the Rafale or Eurofighter.

> relies on cloud-based services, including security updates for its on-device Kubernetes cluster

You don't need to use ALIS if you are using an F35.

For example, Israel chose to roll out their own interconnect (B-Net and IAI+Thales+BEL's Datalink) that they share with France and India, and are using a replacement in the F35 Adir. You never saw Israel complain despite Netanyahu's government publicly despising the Biden admin, because Israel began their own attempts at indigenization after the US-Iran talks began back in Obama 1.

The European countries that do use ALIS are those countries that do not have their own domestic interconnect (Netherlands) or don't want to buy from their French competitors (Germany)

[0] - https://euro-sd.com/2024/03/articles/37091/portugals-compreh...


How can someone asking this question have so many karma points on HN?


Disclosure: 23andme has stored my genetic information since they first started offering genotyping, and I requested data deletion recently although some of my family members haven't and likely won't. Also interviewed and was offered a role at 23andme on their infra team (circa 2010), but declined.

I am not concerned about my genetic data being sold. I am not worried about it being public, it is, through Harvard's Personal Genome Project [1]. If you are going to harm me, you are likely going to use a method far easier than that which would require you have access to my genotyping data. There is also enough overlap with close genetic matches (2nd-4th cousin with hundreds of matches) that if my data is stored despite my deletion request, it would not change the risk assessment. It will take just a bit more legwork to tie a sequence of my DNA to me [2].

Hence my questions to better understand what OP is attempting to defend against. You can't propose mitigations or other recourse (legal and regulatory, primarily, in this case) if you don't know the risk you're attempting to manage, or the threat you're attempting to defend against.

[1] https://pgp.med.harvard.edu/

[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

(day job is in risk management)


1429 is not a lot. People ask how somebody who has as much karma as I do can post the things I post and maybe they have a point.


Mail me at (redacted) and I provide his contact address. You may want to give him some tips.

To be honest I may have exaggerated the power outage ratio, as I am not a first-hand observer; but I tend to give some credibility to his description of the living situation over there, esp. as they want to move.

My point is more or less that denying things, even if not fully true, strengthens demagogues like Trump instead of weakening them.


If you're around 75 years of age, and you're living in a quite comfortable, but increasingly problematic accommodation, it's not too easy to move. Right now we're looking for a place for him and his fiancee. Living and housing costs over here are quite heavy.


https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42986488

It has been "unflagged" now / update: flagged again. Reason for posting this is that I think quite a few people in the US will have similar stories, which will be shared between the general population. And by denying this, Trump will gain more credibility.

I know this will now be flagged into oblivion.

I don't like politics-related posts here not only because of this. But if some aspect is mentioned, I still like to post some substance instead of just letting it be.


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