One of the nicest things about Flask, for me, is there isn't any boilerplate. Unlike django, I don't need a script to produce a bunch of boilerplate code for me, just to create an app. I can type out some code, and run it. There isn't a "required" set of files.

? web.py? Tornado? Any microframework?

Yeah, I'm sure some other microframeworks do it too.

Clearly you haven't tried Pyramid yet ;-)

I have, Flask is better. Pylons and Pyramid aren't that great.

> Pylons and Pyramid aren't that great.

interesting! what don't you like about Pyramid? you're aware it is not a continuation of the Pylons codebase, right?

Actually, as a Flask fan and long-time Djangonaut, I'd like to know what you find so good about Pyramid—where does it shine?

No, I don't. I and most people still don't understand what Pylon/Pyramid is and their page that tries to explain it does nothing but make the problem worse.

They belong to the same family of interchangeable parts, seemingly used by people who haven't used a web framework that doesn't begin with the letters Dj.

Ok, fair enough, do you have any argument on what "flask does better" than pyramid? Because as far as i can tell, pyramid does more and better out-of-the-box - like extensible permission system.

I would really love to know what IS better in flask, especially since Pyramid oficially supports Py3 and PyPy, and that also seems to be a big thing to me.